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Post by linda wallace on Jan 29, 2012 22:37:23 GMT 1
inverclyde news MEMORIAL Cairn At Dry Dock Approved  A GREENOCK community group have been given permission to put up a memorial cairn at historic Scott’s dry dock. Greenock Central, Cartsdyke and East Community Council applied to put up the monument to mark the site’s shipbuilding past. Planning officials approved the brick cairn which will be about 1.5metres high and sited next to the dock beside Cartsburn Roundabout on the A8. No objections were received about the proposal. The derelict dock is believed to be the oldest surviving drydock in Scotland. |
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Post by tiddles on Jan 29, 2012 23:13:00 GMT 1
Pity they hadn't saved the VERY historic drydock but still, at least someone remembers.
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Post by linda wallace on Jan 30, 2012 2:27:57 GMT 1
i suppose its better than nothing....
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Post by tiddles on Jan 30, 2012 13:46:52 GMT 1
yep
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Post by linda wallace on Jan 30, 2012 22:54:59 GMT 1
you would think with the ship building work that has been done in greenock, that the council would want to have something to mark were it all took place
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Post by moonshadow on Jan 31, 2012 14:19:42 GMT 1
No they will just fill it in and put a concrete block on top of it and call it a community theatre
O YES THAY WILL
;D
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Post by tiddles on Jan 31, 2012 14:24:37 GMT 1
Eeeek! Don't say that, they might be reading this. Alan Blair had a great idea (well even he has to have at least one) to have an Oberon Class submarine in the dry dock as an attraction. The dock of course would sealed from the water and hull could be opened up rather like the Britannia.
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Post by samfregreenock on Jan 31, 2012 15:37:07 GMT 1
Eeeek! Don't say that, they might be reading this. Alan Blair had a great idea (well even he has to have at least one) to have an Oberon Class submarine in the dry dock as an attraction. The dock of course would sealed from the water and hull could be opened up rather like the Britannia. Australia has some they want rid of - apparently they were shite - with plenty of poor quality build issues |
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Post by tiddles on Jan 31, 2012 15:56:09 GMT 1
Towards the end, yes they were a bit, 'buggy' shall we say. However, the Australian and New Zealand navies had one or two modifications added that didn't help.
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Post by linda wallace on Jan 31, 2012 22:17:29 GMT 1
i think a dry dock with a submarine would be a great attraction....greenock needs something to celebrate its heritage not just square grey buildings....i would love the future generations to know exactly what greenock was famous for
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Post by Wee Jock on Jan 31, 2012 22:34:23 GMT 1
They had an "O"class on Ebay last year $1,000,000 AUD be around £50 Uk................
Serious note that would have been around £300,000-£400,000 plus the cost of transporting it here.
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Post by linda wallace on Jan 31, 2012 22:39:59 GMT 1
right i think we start a fund and buy one...ebay is our friend...we can put it in the dam. ;D i'll start the ball rolling with 50p....that is the 50p i was going to put in the meter. ;D  |
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Post by tiddles on Jan 31, 2012 22:54:04 GMT 1
The heron would dive bomb it!
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Post by linda wallace on Jan 31, 2012 23:05:41 GMT 1
now come on tidds....how about £1 and you can be captain
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 5, 2012 0:54:11 GMT 1
if memory serves me well, does anyone remember the boat that the council bought that lay down at Cardwell bay and was patched up with plywood and then put in the water and was taken up the water with a few tugs.
This boat was bought for the sum of ( 1 pound ) and insured for something like 48,000 pounds to take it from Cardwell bay to the dry dock that was eventually filled in.
I shall have to look out the pics, I can still see it in my minds eye and they accused the boatmen of making a mess of the East India harbour.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 5, 2012 14:50:22 GMT 1
dont remember that
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 5, 2012 17:07:49 GMT 1
its true I saw that boat so many times and to boot the boys put pot plants on it and there was a big sign telling all about , mind you they were desperate to put a few skeletons on it and a jolly rodger lol.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 5, 2012 20:06:05 GMT 1
hope you find the picture horn it would be good to see
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Post by moonshadow on Feb 6, 2012 10:11:28 GMT 1
Was that not the puffer (vital spark) late 80’s early 90’s?
That was at Lamont’s dry dock for a long time
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Post by tiddles on Feb 6, 2012 13:32:43 GMT 1
I think I remember a puffer lying there too but the one used by the BBC as the, 'Vital Spark' lay at Bowling Harbour before being taken to the Maritime Museum at Irvine.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 6, 2012 13:41:56 GMT 1
i remember my dad talking about that boat
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 6, 2012 13:49:26 GMT 1
I think I remember a puffer lying there too but the one used by the BBC as the, 'Vital Spark' lay at Bowling Harbour before being taken to the Maritime Museum at Irvine. The old Adams Shipyard in Gourock ( ma mate was the manager) had a puffer, that was to be fixed up and repaired courtesy of Scottish Enterprise, it was a shit heap to say the least, rusted through in many places, so much so that a it would have been cheaper to start from scratch and just build wan Scottish Enterprise later had it put in Lamonts - cannae remember what happened next - will find out this weekend though Scottish Enterprise wouldn't take its a wreck and a waste of money, saw it as a vanity project to get it back to working order again |
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Post by tiddles on Feb 6, 2012 13:53:17 GMT 1
These wee boats were hammered and most if not all were well past it. There used to be a, 'restored' one called, 'VIC' something and it used to chutter up and down the Crinan Canal belching foul smoke. We always tried to avoid it at all costs.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 6, 2012 13:58:37 GMT 1
who does that boat belong too that is or was in the harbour...it was square and rusty and it looked like a barge of sorts...it sat across from the fire station?
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Post by harpotheton on Feb 6, 2012 14:17:34 GMT 1
Greetings and Salutations to you all !
The boat you speak of in Lamonts dock was a similar model to the 'Vital Spark' puffer. As Sam said, it was bought for the princely sum of £1 with the idea being that the ex-yard workers (and younger unemployed types) would restore it to it's former glory. At the time of purchase I was seeing a pretty young maid - won't mention her name but it was rather an 'odd' one to say the least...anyway - her father was a structural engineer with Lloyds Shipping Register and he was despatched to inspect this bargain puffer. I asked him afterwards how it had gone. He told me that the Double bottom / tank-top had all but disintegrated and Scottish Enterprise had been done - it wasn't even worth the £1 they had paid for it. Some years later the volvo went lame when I was down in Greenock for a visit. While the smiddy attended to it in Kwik-Fit I went for a little wander....came across the sorry old dear listing badly in the half flooded dry dock. Someone had attached a sign stating that £80 thousand had been spent (wasted) on it (or was it £18 thousand....can't recall...).
Anyway, as I meandered around the area, a voice came from nowhere. It was one of the local oiks having a crafty snifter....frightened the bejesus out of me....turned out to be a delightful chap - if not a little tipsy for 10 o clock on a Saturday morning....of course I'd never do such a thing....well...maybe as a little celebration for bagging a grouse or such like !!
Toodle Pip !!
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 6, 2012 14:55:30 GMT 1
I'll get the full SP on it this coming Saturday when out for a jar or six with the former manager of Adams Shipyard.
No doubt it won't make pleasant reading as per usual
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 6, 2012 19:18:24 GMT 1
search resultsEyesore roundabout 'spoiling' area / Greenock Telegraph ... pity dustyroads,that they never declined the wreck of a boat that they bought that cost £1 and over £160,000 to insure it from Cardwell bay to the drydock at the EAST ... www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/greenock/articles/2011/... - |
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 6, 2012 19:19:48 GMT 1
I remember puting that in and it did happen, they shifted the wreck out before the first Tallships
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 7, 2012 2:04:28 GMT 1
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 7, 2012 3:15:45 GMT 1
great picture
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