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Post by tiddles on May 6, 2012 13:03:28 GMT 1
Nice try McCorleones, away and slither away back under your rock where you belong. And SNP, the next time some stranger arrives at your meetings offering to make you an offer you can't refuse, get a grip, this little exercise probably cost votes elsewhere.
Never talk to bus drivers unless you know them
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Post by myfindhorn on May 6, 2012 20:04:00 GMT 1
I totally agree tidds and Ibet it did cost votes infact Iknow of a few, however the SNP had better get their agenda together to inform people about the ins and outs of independance, because nobody seems to know.
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Post by jimwatson on May 7, 2012 2:08:14 GMT 1
I totally agree tidds and Ibet it did cost votes infact Iknow of a few, however the SNP had better get their agenda together to inform people about the ins and outs of independance, because nobody seems to know. |
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Post by myfindhorn on May 7, 2012 19:07:14 GMT 1
Jim people don't want pieces of paper or PCs they want real people who can be questioned, you can tell a lot about people who believe in what they say.
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Post by jimwatson on May 7, 2012 20:10:34 GMT 1
the offices on Cathcart street might still be open - failing that feel free to phone any of the Councillors who can talk to you directly or they can get another party member to call...
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Post by rod2mc on May 12, 2012 12:28:17 GMT 1
I would have voted SNP, but seeing as Ralphy boy was in my ward, no chance!
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Post by tiddles on May 12, 2012 14:12:38 GMT 1
I hope they have learned their lesson from this and hopefully Roberts and his, 'business men' pals will disappear.
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Post by rod2mc on May 13, 2012 11:55:00 GMT 1
It puzzles me no end why they went there in the first place considering the feeling towards "them" locally
Whoever made that decision needs to be looked at IMHO.
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Post by tiddles on May 13, 2012 13:59:21 GMT 1
They were really struggling to find candidates, even I (it can now be revealed) was approached by three different SNP people to stand!!!! Apart from the fact that I'd rather eat ground glass than be a councillor, they'd not find me a party man. I have never been one to run with the pack.
People have told me that Roberts arrived at a meeting, 'out of the blue' offering his, 'help'. Accepting that help was a very, very foolish thing. I know many people who had intended to vote SNP in various wards declined to do so because of Roberts' selection.
I think the group who have been elected are quite good and certainly well above the parade of freaks that is the Labour group. I feel certain that Labour's situation is not as good as they seem to think. There are one or two problems lurking in the background such as the fact that they have a number of quite old men on board and a man-child who would be better to grow some man-hair and get a job before he has the cheek to govern us. I think the boy will struggle to attend debates and watch for McCabe making sure that all votes take place at night.
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Post by rod2mc on May 13, 2012 17:01:45 GMT 1
the dude that came up with the bridge to Dunoon idea though Tiddles........stark raving, probably the craziest idea Ive heard in a long time
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Post by samfregreenock on May 13, 2012 19:45:02 GMT 1
the dude that came up with the bridge to Dunoon idea though Tiddles........stark raving, probably the craziest idea Ive heard in a long time Did you think that was an intently serious gonnae happen ra morra type suggestion - shirley not? It was designed to encourage debate, especially about how people get back and forward to Argyll. Also the Erskine Bridge was originally proposed to get built further doon river too |
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Post by tiddles on May 14, 2012 13:13:08 GMT 1
Way back in the 60s, there were quite serious plans to build a barrage across the Clyde until it was realised that in certain conditions, if the barrage was closed, Glasgow would flood....result, plans in the bin.
Still it did encourage discussion and I'm sure the Tele deliberately distorted what the man had to say.
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Post by bleach on May 16, 2012 7:47:31 GMT 1
I have never been one to run with the pack. Perhaps that is what this area needs though, someone who does not "run with the pack", seeing as the 'pack' appear to be a pack of incompetent numpties - well, up until now anyway  |
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Post by rod2mc on May 17, 2012 17:56:52 GMT 1
the dude that came up with the bridge to Dunoon idea though Tiddles........stark raving, probably the craziest idea Ive heard in a long time Did you think that was an intently serious gonnae happen ra morra type suggestion - shirley not? It was designed to encourage debate, especially about how people get back and forward to Argyll. Also the Erskine Bridge was originally proposed to get built further doon river too you cant really start an intelligent debate with an incredibly stupid idea. Whats that saying, "better to be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all doubt", someone should tattoo that on the back of his hand, I was going to say forehead but then he'd forget and say something equally stupid. |
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Post by tiddles on May 17, 2012 19:12:11 GMT 1
lol
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Post by samfregreenock on May 17, 2012 19:56:07 GMT 1
Did you think that was an intently serious gonnae happen ra morra type suggestion - shirley not? It was designed to encourage debate, especially about how people get back and forward to Argyll. Also the Erskine Bridge was originally proposed to get built further doon river too you cant really start an intelligent debate with an incredibly stupid idea. Whats that saying, "better to be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all doubt", someone should tattoo that on the back of his hand, I was going to say forehead but then he'd forget and say something equally stupid. remember they once thought flying in an aeroplane was stupid, or even going fast in a car was impossible |
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Post by rod2mc on May 18, 2012 12:47:52 GMT 1
you cant really start an intelligent debate with an incredibly stupid idea. Whats that saying, "better to be thought of as a fool than to speak and remove all doubt", someone should tattoo that on the back of his hand, I was going to say forehead but then he'd forget and say something equally stupid. remember they once thought flying in an aeroplane was stupid, or even going fast in a car was impossible true, but they ideas turned out to change the world as we know it, building a bridge to dunoon wouldn't be the next "internet". How would it be paid for, there's no economic reason to do it, it would be a total loss money wise, the money it would cost to construct would never be recovered and we'd be talking about possibly the biggest and most expensive capital project Scotland has ever seen. IMHO, it would be cheaper to build a bridge across Loch Long, which would still be a massive financial loss. |
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Post by rod2mc on May 18, 2012 14:10:21 GMT 1
ok, just done a quick calc, aprrox. distance from Gourock To Dunoon at the nearest point 3.22km. The length of the current Forth Rd Bridge, 2.5km.
Cost of currently proposed new forth rd bridge - £1.2B
Population of Cowal, approx 14,000
going on them figures, and off the top of my head that must be about £80,000 per person from the Cowal peninsula
now you may as well bump that up another £10K per person as the Dunnon bridge would be 700m longer than the Firth Road Bridge.
Cost effective?
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Post by rod2mc on May 18, 2012 14:14:23 GMT 1
scrub that last bit, the additional distance is about 23% so thats 10k figure is possibly up to 20k
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Post by tiddles on May 18, 2012 15:04:12 GMT 1
You'd get a great view at the central span:)
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Post by rod2mc on May 18, 2012 16:07:23 GMT 1
It would probably top the Erskine for jumpers, sad but true!
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Post by tiddles on May 18, 2012 16:10:41 GMT 1
Yes there would be quite few boy (and girl) racers who'd plunge off as they raced across.
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Post by samfregreenock on May 18, 2012 16:19:12 GMT 1
Nuclear power stations, concorde, etc have never been cost effective or indeed ever paid back their construction and running costs.
Yet here we are still getting fed shite about wonderful nuclear power
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Post by tiddles on May 18, 2012 16:29:03 GMT 1
Capital projects of that nature seldom do, mind you, there has to be a few shillings to be had from the Nuke stations otherwise they'd not have been swallowed up by private companies.
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Post by rod2mc on May 18, 2012 17:01:27 GMT 1
Nuclear power stations, concorde, etc have never been cost effective or indeed ever paid back their construction and running costs. Yet here we are still getting fed shite about wonderful nuclear power Nuclear power is cheap, that a fact. However dealing with the waste is expensive, probably not any cheaper or more expensive than fossil fuels. Concorde was more a proof of concept, it never entered mainstream aviation travel, and was more about British and French pride than anything else,probably not the best comparator Sam |
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Post by tiddles on May 18, 2012 17:15:33 GMT 1
Yes Concorde and any future SST development was doomed when the Americans banned them claiming they would harm the environment. Basically it was sour grapes because their shitey Boing and Lockheed projects never got off the ground (forgive the pun).
They were very noisy on take of but as they flew at VERY high altitude, they didn't cause much bother. I know they spewed out stuff that wouldn't be allowed nowadays but then the contemporary US jets from Boeing, MD and Lockheed were even worse in that respect.
I never wanted to fly in it, I hate aeroplanes and I'm TERRIFIED of helicopters. When the 'copter pilots in the navy found that out they used to do awful things when I had to fly in one. Bastards
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Post by rod2mc on May 18, 2012 17:38:21 GMT 1
I loved the Concorde, but its was a massive waste of money. I think early in its development there must have been some flaw in the calculations as to its fuel consumption when it goes supersonic.
The amount of fuel dumped into the engines must have been massive to allow an afterburn for the lengths of time needed to get it from a to b in the shortest time.
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Post by samfregreenock on May 18, 2012 18:56:55 GMT 1
Another white elephant that will never make a profit is the channel tunnel
Perhaps a tunnel across the clyde would be better and cheaper - in Scandinavia they have many such pre-fabricated tunnels that are submerged and lie on the sea/river bed dont cost a fortune and are very well used
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