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Post by tiddles on Apr 17, 2012 18:16:13 GMT 1
inverclydenow.com/blogs/election-2012/6939-election-2012-labour-say-education-will-be-a-priority-Ah, this is the education department that has buggered up just about every new school? And, "We will fully implement the Curriculum for Excellence with a strong focus on learning and teaching", didn't your pathetic leader in Holyrood declare her and her party's opposition to this strategy? "If we retain control of the council in May" Sorry boneheid, you don't have control to retain, you are kept in power by old sweaty Wilson and wee Ahlfield. Tell your tales to the parents and pupils of Clydeview and see hoe they react to you. ARSE
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Post by samfregreenock on Apr 17, 2012 22:39:50 GMT 1
Education ma fekkin arse
19 spelling and grammar mistakes on their naff election flyer, never mind getting the RC school wrong
Complete fuckwits, no doubt voted for by similar intellectually challenged imbeciles
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Post by myfindhorn on Apr 18, 2012 15:18:24 GMT 1
I am not trying to be funny here but I thought all schools were state schools and open to all regardless of religion, any one not a catholic can go to a RC school, which I have been told is only called RC because it is maily catholics that go to it and, that was from the days that the RC schools were run by the churches. I also believe that the Mearns st school was the last protestant school in greenock.
Anyone know better ?.
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Post by tiddles on Apr 18, 2012 15:42:49 GMT 1
Not quite right Horn, so-called 'protestant schools' are strictly speaking, non-denominational ie., open to any faith or creed. It doesn't mention secularlity which I suspect is deliberate. In practice, non-denominational schools were, in my day at least, allied to the protestant churches.
The Education Act (Scotland) 1926(?) allowed for catholic schools which provide grounding in a, 'catholic educational programme' to funded by the taxpayer and overseen by the diocese and the education authority. As the rules stand, only children who are baptised into the catholic faith can attend a catholic school. Non-catholic teachers may teach at catholic schools but they must give a whole box full of undertakings that they will not, 'interfere or contradict' anything to do with the catholic church or its educational policies and they are well vetted to ensure that they don't have any, 'vices' that the church wouldn't like. Presumably paedophilia would be welcomed.
A catholic can and many do, attend a non-denominational school and there are quite a few cases of catholic teachers working there too.
It should be noted that the Education Act (Scotland) 1926(?) was so woolie that it provided a facility for other taxpayer funded faith schools and we now as a result, have at least two State muslim schools in Glasgow.
I long for the day when schools, as the are in France, are totally secularised. No morning prayers, no visits from ministers and priests, no reciting hymns, no church services and NO bloody bigotry. School is for learning how to read, write and count and all that follows. I had prayers stuffed down my neck and was forced to memorise hymns and I had to endure interminable services from egotistical clergymen. I also had to tolerate lengthy lectures on the wonderful David Livingstone, who daft old f*** that he was, abandoned the poor starving and sick people here to go to Africa and 'convert' the poor heathens. The fact that he did not convert even ONE heathen is neither here nor there. David Livingstone was an arsehole (rather like John Wayne!).
The Mearns Street School was a non-denominational school.
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Post by myfindhorn on Apr 18, 2012 16:32:12 GMT 1
I agree tidds, that religion should be for outside school, I fear though that most children would not go to church/ chapel etc if they had to outside school hours, and in saying that, they don't have a option of being brainwashed or not, besides religion should be the parents job.
It maybe that this is something that Scotland will take into account when independance is here and become like France. Parents will still have the right to pay for schools that remain religious.
I have been assured that my grandaughter can attend ND as it is in her catchment area and she dos,nt have to be RC.
Oh for a world without manmade religions.
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Post by tiddles on Apr 18, 2012 16:40:28 GMT 1
The granddaughter can attend any Non-Den school but she HAS to be catholic to go to a catholic one. There's always a dirty rush in May when catholic parents of non-baptised children go dashing off to church to get their weans Christened so that they can go to a catholic school.
I would be ABSOLUTELY DELIGHTED if no children attended churches, synagogues, temples, mosques or ANY religious organisation. It would let them grow up understanding the world for what it is untrammelled by superstitious shite. If when they are older, they want to go off to bother God, then fine but children are too precious and too impressionable to be exposed to self-interested clerics and their dodgy doctrines.
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Post by samfregreenock on Apr 18, 2012 16:41:43 GMT 1
There is a jewish state school in glasgow and at least one CofE school in Dunblane too
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Post by tiddles on Apr 18, 2012 16:49:24 GMT 1
Odd thing is, they don't ask what denomination you are when they take your money to fund this God-fest
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Post by myfindhorn on Apr 18, 2012 17:30:28 GMT 1
GOD FEST.................a love it lol
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Post by jimwatson on Apr 18, 2012 18:33:29 GMT 1
Tidds - just for reference it was the Education (Scotland) Act 1918 that introduced Catholic Schools - not to be confused with the Education Act 1918 that only applied to England and Wales...In addition to the Act's provisions on Catholic education, it was a piece of far-reaching legislation that contained several radical changes. For instance it introduced new, county-based education authorities - the precursors of what we have today; the school leaving age was raised from 14 to 15; and there were further restrictions on under-15 year olds being employed in factories, mines and quarries...
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Post by tiddles on Apr 18, 2012 18:40:29 GMT 1
Well done Watson, I was just wondering which of you would spot that little wheeze
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