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Post by tiddles on Apr 16, 2012 14:58:22 GMT 1
inverclydenow.com/news/local/6937-how-to-drug-proof-your-kids-courseWhat by all that's holy does that gibberish mean?  Are we to conclude that living in the East End of Greenock predisposes you to have junkie weans? What a bloody insult. Yet again we have another pile of pish thought up by one of these shadowy people who have been hovering around in the background, making a nice bob or two out of shit like this. I have lost count of the little, 'initiatives' that this Brian Power has been involved with. I can say with ABSOLUTE certainty that this, 'project' will have NO effect whatsoever on the endemic drug problems of the town. I bet there are literally dozens of overpaid people involved in this crap. Curse them all.
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Post by samfregreenock on Apr 16, 2012 15:49:24 GMT 1
Just read that pish - laughable
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Post by linda wallace on Apr 16, 2012 17:41:50 GMT 1
i can think of better ways to spend the money
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Post by myfindhorn on Apr 16, 2012 20:52:47 GMT 1
I found a way that cost nothing and i did'nt even have to speak, i just took them around and showed them the stick thin toothless tracksuit wearing zombies, then to the piles of wee brown plastic bottles that held methadone and of course the long que's at the chemist and finally the poor wee kids that belong to them and contribute their child benefit to their parents addiction
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Post by samfregreenock on Apr 16, 2012 21:47:59 GMT 1
Like alcohol, drugs can be used quite safely. It's only when people go overboard or use shite they have no idea of the provenance of, things go wrong.
Telling kids drugs are bad and evil just doesnt work, as most teenagers know that is just pish.
For example, apparently more people die f bee-stings in the UK than die of ecstasy, despite at it's height of popularity being taken by millions of people at weekends.
Cannabis can kill you though, but only if 2 tonnes of it land on your head from a great height.
The only sure fire way of minimising drug related deaths is to legalise it and hence control the quality, provenance and price of them
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Post by moonshadow on Apr 17, 2012 10:41:52 GMT 1
so tiddles what woud you do to deail withe the drug problem in the town
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Post by tiddles on Apr 17, 2012 15:46:27 GMT 1
We should start at the top and work our way down. The Corporations, for that's what they are, who deal drugs must be destroyed. How do we do that, when they always seem to have it all sewn up with alibis etc..? Easy, we apply the same measures as we would against would-be terrorists. We simply arrest the king-pins, sequester their property and wind up their, ‘oh so legitimate’ businesses. We couldn't do it? Parliament would never stand for it? It runs against natural justice? Wrong, at the present time there are hundreds of people in jail in this country who have not had the benefit of a trial, a court hearing or access to a lawyer and purely because they are suspected of being a terrorist or a terrorist plotter. Why not the drug barons? We ALL know them, why even children can rhyme off their names. They even make movies about them starring a local, 'prodigy'. THEY caused the problem and they should pay. When in prison they should be kept in solitary confinement (for their own good  ). No special privileges for them. A chanty, three square but basic meals and an hour's exercise a day. Television and other things are for humans, not scum. Visits? I THINK NOT! Secondly, let's end the daft methadone programme. It doesn't work at all and makes the lives of staff and customers alike in chemist shops a misery. Why should some old dear in for her prescription have to face a shaking, probably stinking junkie and why should some wee lassie have to hand a wee cup of green goo to such a creature? Junkie's children, what of them? Sadly, the only thing most of them seem to be able to do is procreate and they do it prodigiously. Without fear of contradiction and with an absolute certainty, these poor wee babes are doomed. For them there is NO chance whatever of a normal life and in the end, they too will be junkies. There is only one way to put an end to it and that is to remove the children from them. If we saw a kiddie being sexually abused or beaten, would we ignore it? Why then should we ignore this? Now here's where I become VERY controversial and I can almost hear the chins dropping out there. I would offer inducements to junkies to undergo reversible sterilisations. Anything shiny will do, a flat screen TV, a pair of Nike trainers, anything that can be dropped off at Cash Generator. Of course there would be those who would hold out and doubtless the good Archbishop in Glasgow would have something to say. To the ones who old out I would make it clear that they are running out of options and that soon it would be made compulsory with no inducements. To the Archbishop I would say, "fuck right off you despicable hypocrite". Notice I have said, "reversible" sterilisation. If someone managed to, 'get clean' and some although not many do, a wee quick bit of day surgery and it's back to making babies. In the 1970s, heroin addiction was seldom seen if at all in Scotland and certainly not in our provincial towns and cities. But then, the evil whore queen took power and everything went to hell. Scotland was deliberately de-industrialised and we were left with vast wasteland council estates filled with people who had no hope and no future. People with the right to buy buggered off out of it as soon as they could leaving the poor sods who couldn't get a mortgage. Like a petri dish in a laboratory smeared with a nasty bacteria, drug addiction grew into an epidemic. Things were made worse when the old cow decided that we had too many customs officers and promptly paid a third of them off despite being warned that they were needed to stop drugs entering the country. No, she feared the power of the unions and sought to break the civil service. Thanks bitch, thanks a bunch. And then, SHE DEREGULATED THE BUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stupid, self-seeking old bastard. Well you asked me Of course none of my suggestions will ever be tried out and this will be good news for those who suffer from Bristow Syndrome, they have a job for life. |
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Post by myfindhorn on Apr 17, 2012 15:46:48 GMT 1
sam that may be so, however i have seen the effects on families and it is heart rendering, and their are no such thing as a safe drug, not even legal ones.
how many people have been killed by someone on drugs, driving,stabbing, shooting,etc.
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Post by samfregreenock on Apr 17, 2012 16:10:40 GMT 1
sam that may be so, however i have seen the effects on families and it is heart rendering, and their are no such thing as a safe drug, not even legal ones. how many people have been killed by someone on drugs, driving,stabbing, shooting,etc. No were near as many as has been done by people not on drugs Alcohol and fags cause more illness than drugs |
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Post by tiddles on Apr 17, 2012 16:30:17 GMT 1
I agree sammy. Perhaps I'm showing my age but I think we should never have gone over to late night drinking. In my day the streets were clear by 11:30 pm and anyone the worse of drink got lifted. The cops came into all the pubs to see what was going on and if they found someone drinking even a minute after time they were done.
I worry about, 'eccies' however. They are not refined like alcohol and prescription drugs. Where did they come from and who made them? The kids could be taking anything.
I'm not too troubled by cannabis use except to say that whilst the stuff like ecstasy is supplied by drug dealers I cannot accept them. I also don't want pot heads driving about in a blue fug, zoomed out of their skulls. I should also mention that smoked cannabis is upwards of 100% more carcinogenic than a normal cigarette.
If only we didn't live in such a pressure cooker environment, people would not indulge so excessively. When I went out on a Saturday night with my mates (couldn't afford a Friday as well), I enjoyed a couple of pints and maybe a wee goldie but it would never enter my head to go out with the intention of getting blitzed out of my skull.
Like most of my pals, we were out looking for skirt but no self-respecting skirt (I'll get hammered for using that expression by Mrs Tiddles) would even look at a guy who was pissed. In fact most lassies then didn't drink much more than a sweet martini or maybe a rum and coke. Now we see young girls wandering about, barely clothed and high as kites. That is not emancipation, it's a recipe for disaster.
My boys tell us some of the things they see and it makes me spin hearing of them. I think, all things considered, the 70s and 80s were better. Better music and better schmutter.
Old Fogey
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Post by rod2mc on Apr 17, 2012 16:33:57 GMT 1
Get with it guys, the war on drugs is lost and IMHO it was lost before it was started.
The only thing we can do is take it out of the black market and try our best to regulate, If you do that you kill the illegal drug trade overnight, taking with it a phenomenal amount of crime.
It really is that easy!
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Post by tiddles on Apr 17, 2012 16:36:43 GMT 1
Sadly Rod, you're right. Of course I'm not sad that you personally are right, just that the veracity of your rectitude is right. Right?
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Post by rod2mc on Apr 17, 2012 16:40:31 GMT 1
Right, I think LMAO
Who knows where the suggested road would lead us to, but Im pretty sure it cant be as bad as it is now. They've tried prohibition and its failed miserably. They must try another strategy, I wouldnt even say its an option to stay with the status quo
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Post by tiddles on Apr 17, 2012 16:42:12 GMT 1
I want revenge on the drug barons, as Sonny said, "I want omerta".
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Post by bleach on Apr 20, 2012 9:15:34 GMT 1
We should start at the top and work our way down. The Corporations, for that's what they are, who deal drugs must be destroyed. How do we do that, when they always seem to have it all sewn up with alibis etc..? Easy, we apply the same measures as we would against would-be terrorists. We simply arrest the king-pins, sequester their property and wind up their, ‘oh so legitimate’ businesses. We couldn't do it? Parliament would never stand for it? It runs against natural justice? Wrong, at the present time there are hundreds of people in jail in this country who have not had the benefit of a trial, a court hearing or access to a lawyer and purely because they are suspected of being a terrorist or a terrorist plotter. Why not the drug barons? We ALL know them, why even children can rhyme off their names. They even make movies about them starring a local, 'prodigy'. THEY caused the problem and they should pay. When in prison they should be kept in solitary confinement (for their own good ). No special privileges for them. A chanty, three square but basic meals and an hour's exercise a day. Television and other things are for humans, not scum. Visits? I THINK NOT! Secondly, let's end the daft methadone programme. It doesn't work at all and makes the lives of staff and customers alike in chemist shops a misery. Why should some old dear in for her prescription have to face a shaking, probably stinking junkie and why should some wee lassie have to hand a wee cup of green goo to such a creature? Junkie's children, what of them? Sadly, the only thing most of them seem to be able to do is procreate and they do it prodigiously. Without fear of contradiction and with an absolute certainty, these poor wee babes are doomed. For them there is NO chance whatever of a normal life and in the end, they too will be junkies. There is only one way to put an end to it and that is to remove the children from them. If we saw a kiddie being sexually abused or beaten, would we ignore it? Why then should we ignore this? Now here's where I become VERY controversial and I can almost hear the chins dropping out there. I would offer inducements to junkies to undergo reversible sterilisations. Anything shiny will do, a flat screen TV, a pair of Nike trainers, anything that can be dropped off at Cash Generator. Of course there would be those who would hold out and doubtless the good Archbishop in Glasgow would have something to say. To the ones who old out I would make it clear that they are running out of options and that soon it would be made compulsory with no inducements. To the Archbishop I would say, "fuck right off you despicable hypocrite". Notice I have said, "reversible" sterilisation. If someone managed to, 'get clean' and some although not many do, a wee quick bit of day surgery and it's back to making babies. In the 1970s, heroin addiction was seldom seen if at all in Scotland and certainly not in our provincial towns and cities. But then, the evil whore queen took power and everything went to hell. Scotland was deliberately de-industrialised and we were left with vast wasteland council estates filled with people who had no hope and no future. People with the right to buy buggered off out of it as soon as they could leaving the poor sods who couldn't get a mortgage. Like a petri dish in a laboratory smeared with a nasty bacteria, drug addiction grew into an epidemic. Things were made worse when the old cow decided that we had too many customs officers and promptly paid a third of them off despite being warned that they were needed to stop drugs entering the country. No, she feared the power of the unions and sought to break the civil service. Thanks bitch, thanks a bunch. And then, SHE DEREGULATED THE BUSES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Stupid, self-seeking old bastard. Well you asked me Of course none of my suggestions will ever be tried out and this will be good news for those who suffer from Bristow Syndrome, they have a job for life. Great suggestions. Unfortunately (for us) they would adversely affect the 'human rights' of complete and utter scumbags, so will never happen. A pity. |
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Are we to conclude that living in the East End of Greenock predisposes you to have junkie weans? What a bloody insult. 
). No special privileges for them. A chanty, three square but basic meals and an hour's exercise a day. Television and other things are for humans, not scum. Visits? I THINK NOT!
