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Post by tiddles on Feb 17, 2012 18:37:50 GMT 1
Can anyone tell me what this is? I genuinely want to know.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 17, 2012 19:45:36 GMT 1
yea i would like to know too.........someone got the telerag...lol....
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Post by tiddles on Feb 17, 2012 19:49:22 GMT 1
Maybe I'm being bad minded but it sounds like one of those mickey mouse type things that keeps Ms Pinder in luxury toiletries.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 17, 2012 19:57:30 GMT 1
well its to do with the watt college and NC is national curriculum so i wonder what its about
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Post by tiddles on Feb 17, 2012 20:05:40 GMT 1
Perhaps it is a course in how to distinguish a fireman from a drum major?  ? |
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 17, 2012 22:45:51 GMT 1
lol..
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 18, 2012 23:52:25 GMT 1
It's a pish course to keep folk aff the unemployment figures.
jWC specialise in such pish courses
It's easy money for colleges such as JWC to run such pish
Upcoming NC courses include
NC in is the pope a kafflik?
NC in are orange ashes really the ones fathers wore and we these fathers kafflik priests
Of course to save actually teaching this pish, NCs are available in the lavvies of JWC in the dispensers marked NCs please take one - otherwise known as lavvy paper dispensers
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 19, 2012 0:51:25 GMT 1
lol...now come on does anyone know what this is
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Post by cloakedandhidden on Feb 22, 2012 9:16:46 GMT 1
If memory serves, this isn't actually that bad a course; it's an NC that prepares those leaving school at 16 for Armed Forces or Police etc. service.
Course content when I read about it was things like fitness, legal studies, I think there was a driving part to it as well, so it would help you get a licence or better your skills if you already had one, and then general stuff like discipline, deportment etc.
I had a pal who went on a similar thing a few years ago when he left school as he wasn't quite "ready" for the army. Seemed to help, so meh, better than endless "Health & Beauty" students - just how many hairdressers does Inverclyde need??!
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 22, 2012 9:34:06 GMT 1
If memory serves, this isn't actually that bad a course; it's an NC that prepares those leaving school at 16 for Armed Forces or Police etc. service. Course content when I read about it was things like fitness, legal studies, I think there was a driving part to it as well, so it would help you get a licence or better your skills if you already had one, and then general stuff like discipline, deportment etc. I had a pal who went on a similar thing a few years ago when he left school as he wasn't quite "ready" for the army. Seemed to help, so meh, better than endless "Health & Beauty" students - just how many hairdressers does Inverclyde need??hunnerz and hunnerz apparently - but it does a good job of keeping the unemployment figures down |
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Post by tiddles on Feb 22, 2012 16:19:06 GMT 1
Whatever they'd teach you at the JWC, the Armed Forces would ALWAYS be a culture shock. Sounds very mickey mouse to me and another way of taking youngsters off the unemployment register.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 22, 2012 16:22:06 GMT 1
exactly tidds
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Post by tiddles on Feb 22, 2012 16:26:53 GMT 1
I know I am cynical but these are the kind of things that made me so.
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 22, 2012 16:28:44 GMT 1
Whatever they'd teach you at the JWC, the Armed Forces would ALWAYS be a culture shock. Sounds very mickey mouse to me and another way of taking youngsters off the unemployment register. indeed it must have been a real struggle years ago, before this course, furra police, military etc to get folks (ah don't think) It will be courses on parenting next.............. |
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Post by tiddles on Feb 22, 2012 21:29:21 GMT 1
LOL and how to use the toilet
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 23, 2012 0:25:31 GMT 1
As for health and beauty students, not only do the students pay for tuition they also earned the collage money as they charge the public for therapies and the money went into their coffers. However very few clients go to the collage now for treatments as the prices are a joke and you can pay a few pounds more to get qualified therapist treatment in town
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Post by cloakedandhidden on Feb 23, 2012 9:22:59 GMT 1
Dont take my comment wrong; I have nothing but respect for the girls (and it is all girls, no sexism here), in the health & beauty dept. - they come out of there trained very well (tuition is free for the first go, as with all college now). It just worries me that staggering large number of them in an area that cannot hope to support that many people in the industry.
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 23, 2012 10:22:03 GMT 1
Hairdressing is consistently at the top of the "wanted" trades list for Australia, it has been for donkeys years - I have no idea why
If I was one of those young folk leaving JWC, that would be my target
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Post by cloakedandhidden on Feb 23, 2012 10:45:01 GMT 1
You're kidding me! Seriously?
It does sometimes worry me as a society that we value footballers over quantum physicists, and hairdressers are cool, but software engineers are geeks…
We need to emphasis that academic achievement is cool, that clever is sexy.
Maybe a campaign showing that people find someone sexy if they can hold a conversation that's deeper than "Britain's Got Talent", and having a well-paid job and lots of qualifications is a lot "cooler" than wearing the right trainers and stylish shirts, as you're standing in the dole queue.
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 23, 2012 11:13:39 GMT 1
You're kidding me! Seriously? It does sometimes worry me as a society that we value footballers over quantum physicists, and hairdressers are cool, but software engineers are geeks… We need to emphasis that academic achievement is cool, that clever is sexy. Maybe a campaign showing that people find someone sexy if they can hold a conversation that's deeper than "Britain's Got Talent", and having a well-paid job and lots of qualifications is a lot "cooler" than wearing the right trainers and stylish shirts, as you're standing in the dole queue. nah honestly www.immi.gov.au/skilled/_pdf/sol-schedule1-2.pdf |
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 23, 2012 13:49:23 GMT 1
its true about hairdressers and Australia, another thing about therapists, the JWC started a holistic course and lots of beauty therapists continued onto that course, they trained for up to 4 years on reflexology and aromatheraphy in the hopes of joining the NHS.
Nurses were sent on a 6 weeks course for both therapies so as to save the NHS and let me tell you for I KNOW THIS IS THE TRUTH, nurses went on the beauty course and chucked it as the anatomy was to hard, and this is the people that look after you in a hospital.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 23, 2012 15:59:55 GMT 1
i went back to college to do my HNC in hairdressing as i was out of the trade for some years...i traid for 7 years at holm's grey place, it was the best training going and i worked hard.....
when i was at the college i didnt think much of a lot of the girls who were in my class...they were okay but to me wouldnt make the standard....its just not all about the hairdressing side but its to do with how you talk and your demeanor..
last year i was offered a job at jwc as a hairdressing lecturer...i had the papers and i had a shop for a few years and i refused it as i just remember kids coming in to get out of the way of the buses.....i remember one kid saying that "her maw was wathin the wean"....
i also remember some of them coming to my shop for a job and i refused because of their training.....the lecturer used to give them the answers to their exams..it meant he wouldnt lose his job if his marks were low.....i studied, i read and i did the job.....
it makes me laugh at the length of time they qualify in....took me 7 yrs to qualify working on the shop floor starting with picking up pins and brushing floors and at the end being able to give a service....
i trained my junior on the shop floor, she didnt go to college and she passed every exam...she was qualified enough to say that she could live her dream by going on the liners....
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Post by tiddles on Feb 23, 2012 16:01:58 GMT 1
Hairdressers had to pay for their own apprenticeships years ago.
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 23, 2012 16:35:53 GMT 1
i went back to college to do my HNC in hairdressing as i was out of the trade for some years...i traid for 7 years at holm's grey place, it was the best training going and i worked hard..... when i was at the college i didnt think much of a lot of the girls who were in my class...they were okay but to me wouldnt make the standard....its just not all about the hairdressing side but its to do with how you talk and your demeanor..last year i was offered a job at jwc as a hairdressing lecturer...i had the papers and i had a shop for a few years and i refused it as i just remember kids coming in to get out of the way of the buses.....i remember one kid saying that "her maw was wathin the wean"....i also remember some of them coming to my shop for a job and i refused because of their training..... the lecturer used to give them the answers to their exams..it meant he wouldnt lose his job if his marks were low.....i studied, i read and i did the job..... it makes me laugh at the length of time they qualify in....took me 7 yrs to qualify working on the shop floor starting with picking up pins and brushing floors and at the end being able to give a service.... i trained my junior on the shop floor, she didnt go to college and she passed every exam...she was qualified enough to say that she could live her dream by going on the liners.... well said linda - the bits in bold are so true and blatantly obvious |
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 23, 2012 18:39:44 GMT 1
Hairdressers had to pay for their own apprenticeships years ago. when i was training i was getting £1.1shilling and 6 pence....such a low wage but if i had a higher wage i would have needed to pay for my training.....i worked at xmas late and new year folks would come in and get their perms or hairdoo's at 11pm for the bells would you believe....i was the only junior that would work those times and they never thought about how i would get home so i had to stay the night in the salon....we had a beauty salon upstairs so i used to sleep on the bed...there was plenty of coffee and food so i was okay and i had the keys for the place so i could get home the next day.... the training was hard and long.....we would work through our lunch to finishe at 8pm on a friday night....i survived by pinching food off the plates belonging to the customers lol...we served salads to the clients.... when i left hairdressing for a while i went and trained as a shorthand typist so i had another trade just incase my hands broke out which would mean i couldnt do my trade any longer.... i then went and worked in community education with youth work and adult education while my daughter was young but always went back to hairdressing which was my last job when i had my shop..... i remember a girl in college who put someone's hair up and because the hair at the back wouldnt go up right, she cut it off to make it neat......now she was qualified or so the college said.....if i was a customer i wouldnt have went near her....she wasnt the only one that was naff at the training |
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 23, 2012 19:37:22 GMT 1
they were the days Linda when everyone was employed and jobs were everywhere, I thank god I knew those days, the youth of today will never know that way of life or the abundance of everything we had.
Remember how we all thought we were hard done by, we had it all and did'nt know it.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 23, 2012 19:49:42 GMT 1
nowadays they feel poor if they dont have a play station or a flat screen tv
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