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Post by tiddles on Feb 17, 2012 17:43:27 GMT 1
www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/greenock/articles/2012/02/17/424020-snp-announce-candidates-for-elections/I simply cannot believe it. I had read the snide comments on the Tele site and I had exchanged comments with members here but I NEVER for one moment thought that the local SNP branch could be so ill-advised as to put McGill's MD up as a candidate. They have given the LibDems, Labour and the Tories just the weapon they need. Let me say at once that I do not know Mr Ralph Roberts, indeed until the last two months I had never heard of him. He might be a perfectly nice man and a skilled businessman but really, do we want someone from McGills as a representative on an SNP led council? I am reminded of the old saying, "If you lay down with dogs, you'll get up with fleas". Sorry if this offends and is seen as heresy but I for one will NOT be giving my vote to this man. Are the tentacles of the Easdale family to spread directly into local government now?  ? I AM UTTERLY FUCKING DISGUSTED BEYOND BELIEF. If I ever had any doubts about leaving Inverclyde, they have vanished this afternoon.
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Post by mum48 on Feb 17, 2012 19:18:32 GMT 1
www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/greenock/articles/2012/02/17/424020-snp-announce-candidates-for-elections/I simply cannot believe it. I had read the snide comments on the Tele site and I had exchanged comments with members here but I NEVER for one moment thought that the local SNP branch could be so ill-advised as to put McGill's MD up as a candidate. They have given the LibDems, Labour and the Tories just the weapon they need. Let me say at once that I do not know Mr Ralph Roberts, indeed until the last two months I had never heard of him. He might be a perfectly nice man and a skilled businessman but really, do we want someone from McGills as a representative on an SNP led council? I am reminded of the old saying, "If you lay down with dogs, you'll get up with fleas". Sorry if this offends and is seen as heresy but I for one will NOT be giving my vote to this man. Are the tentacles of the Easdale family to spread directly into local government now? ? I AM UTTERLY FUCKING DISGUSTED BEYOND BELIEF. If I ever had any doubts about leaving Inverclyde, they have vanished this afternoon. You have just said what I was thinking.  |
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 17, 2012 20:00:08 GMT 1
mcgills are everywhere more so if he get's in
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Post by tiddles on Feb 17, 2012 20:04:47 GMT 1
I really am staggered about this. Even if we take the McCorleones out of this, we are talking about a company that is currently under investigation by three statutory bodies and has in past been the subject of concern in submissions to the Transport Commissioner by the police.
This man knew all about this and the reputation of this company before he took the job and if he didn't, he's an eejit. No, I shall not vote at all in May but I will vote YES in the referendum but hopefully I'll be casting that vote somewhere far from Inverclyde.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 17, 2012 22:47:20 GMT 1
can we come too
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 18, 2012 1:05:06 GMT 1
lost my vote
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 18, 2012 1:13:39 GMT 1
between the last candidate and this one, like you Tiddles I feel, they are scrapping the arse of the barrel and this I will say if that is as good as it gets the SNP are on their way to be finished, no our council are crap but if Mr Ralph Roberts gets in you can bet your boots the town will not only be run by the McCorleones but they will bloody own it too..............................bad BAD BAD move by the SNP and I shall be sending this out to all the people I know and I shall bet you that this town will be bitterly dissapointed..................
The SNP should vet their candidates better and soon before they are accused of taking brown envelopes.
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Post by cloakedandhidden on Feb 18, 2012 5:48:31 GMT 1
Firstly I think that just because someone works for a company doesn't mean they are tarred by the same brush.
Secondly, regardless of where one of them work, they would certainly be an improvement over the current muppets from Labour, under whose watch certain local companies seem to have taken an almost monopoly-like presence…
I could say more but I know I'm pissing into the wind here; you've made up your mind on this tiddles; fair enough. I say give the man a chance, but I can understand your decision…
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Post by bleach on Feb 18, 2012 10:41:11 GMT 1
Ah well, we'll see what happens. Best of luck to all the candidates anyway  |
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Post by tiddles on Feb 18, 2012 14:49:15 GMT 1
Cloakie, You and I have corresponded on this matter a couple of times and as you know, I was very concerned about this eventuality. As I have said, I don't know much about this man but what I do know is that he has chosen to work for a company that wee weans in the street know all about. Formal police submissions have been made to the transport commissioners about McGill's and there are currently another two formal investigations from statutory bodies. Now if I were Mr Roberts, lots of little alarm bells would have been ringing in my head and I would have wondered whether I really ought to join such an organisation. However, Mr Roberts is not me and clearly he is unconcerned about who he works for. This to me at the very least to be, a serious lack of judgement and let's face it, more judgementally challenged people are not what we need in our council. I am sorry, deeply sorry to say it but this is a major, 'own goal' from a party that up to now has been a formidable political machine envied by other parties.
"Firstly I think that just because someone works for a company doesn't mean they are tarred by the same brush."Well perhaps not if we were talking about someone who merely drives for McGill's but this man HEADS the company. Did he submit himself as a candidate or did the local branch solicit him? Dear God, were you THAT hard up for candidates? Inverclyde has been in serious need of a, 'new broom' to sweep through the Municipal Buildings but I fear that this act of madness may deprive us of a good administration and hope for the future. |
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 18, 2012 16:34:20 GMT 1
tiddles have you been to the lounge bar recently
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Post by tiddles on Feb 18, 2012 16:36:13 GMT 1
Na, I never go to local bars |
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Post by tiddles on Feb 18, 2012 16:36:43 GMT 1
Or do you mean the one in Largs?
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 18, 2012 17:20:13 GMT 1
no the one here lol
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 19, 2012 0:53:49 GMT 1
read it horn
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Post by harpotheton on Feb 20, 2012 13:30:19 GMT 1
Tiddles used the 'F' word !!
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Post by tiddles on Feb 20, 2012 13:46:27 GMT 1
Yes and I have been made to sit on the naughty stool for my trouble
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Post by moonshadow on Feb 22, 2012 13:27:19 GMT 1
I know the man has had a lot of health problems of late but Jim Grieves does not look good in the photo they had on Inverclyde now
Got to agree that I think it is a big own goal to have the McGills man on bored
Given that the snp only have 9 standing do they not want to take on the council or are they waiting for a coalition.
If the ones that I have spoken to that are considering standing as independents actually do stand this could be a very interesting
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 22, 2012 13:58:56 GMT 1
I know the man has had a lot of health problems of late but Jim Grieves does not look good in the photo they had on Inverclyde now Got to agree that I think it is a big own goal to have the McGills man on bored Given that the snp only have 9 standing do they not want to take on the council or are they waiting for a coalition. If the ones that I have spoken to that are considering standing as independents actually do stand this could be a very interesting Jim Grieve has indeed had a lot of health problems recently but I hear that he's over that -maybe not 100%. Hasn't he always looked like that |
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Post by moonshadow on Feb 22, 2012 14:26:04 GMT 1
Well that is true
Know Jim for years had our debates but got a lot of time for him
Good to hear that he is on the mend
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 22, 2012 14:51:25 GMT 1
Well that is true Know Jim for years had our debates but got a lot of time for him Good to hear that he is on the mend Well so I hear but that was a wee while ago - I bumped in to one of his daughters, who I hadnt seen for years - she was telling me |
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Post by tiddles on Feb 22, 2012 16:16:09 GMT 1
It's pretty dismal that they can only muster nine. Any chance they had can only be buggered now with this McCorleone thing. Makes me sick AND angry!
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Post by moonshadow on Feb 22, 2012 16:29:14 GMT 1
Is it the case that the SNP like other political party’s do not actually have a big membership locally. A lot of people will admit to supporting the party policy’s but are not actually card carrying members
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 22, 2012 16:31:00 GMT 1
Is it the case that the SNP like other political party’s do not actually have a big membership locally. A lot of people will admit to supporting the party policy’s but are not actually card carrying members maybe nobody wants to be a councillor - I couldn't blame anyone for that |
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Post by tiddles on Feb 22, 2012 21:28:25 GMT 1
Pity, I smell another four years of Liebour
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 23, 2012 4:20:32 GMT 1
guess who has their offices across in captain street.....LABOUR.....so close and not to far away....what happened to keir hardy house, have they sold it?
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Post by cloakedandhidden on Feb 23, 2012 9:33:36 GMT 1
There's still a good chance they could form the administration - I think the Labour vote will drop, turnout is always lower on a council election (no national coverage this time round), and that will keep a lot of the apathetic masses who vote labour because..they vote labour, at home.
On top of that, a few good independents, and a good show from the SNP and we may well see an SNP-led administration in May.
What's certain is that Labour, for all their bluster, are definitely worried. It's a shame the local party isn't standing 11 or 12 candidates, but getting acceptable candidates, who are willing to do a good job, and are competent etc. is always hard work. Better 8 or 9 good councillors that make the grade than standing a few more who aren't as gifted...
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Post by moonshadow on Feb 23, 2012 10:27:18 GMT 1
Even standing any independents will have an affect
When Chic what’s his name (the Morton man) stood he pulled in about 1,000 if memory serves rightly cutting the labour majority and splitting the snp lib dem vote
And that was a one policy party
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Post by tiddles on Feb 23, 2012 15:58:12 GMT 1
We must pray for torrential rain and a nice long Jeremy Kyle show.
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