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Post by Wee Jock on Feb 1, 2012 17:19:27 GMT 1
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Post by bleach on Feb 1, 2012 19:03:44 GMT 1
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 1, 2012 21:27:01 GMT 1
i dont know why we have to pay for a license as there is nothing worth watching and the tv is mostly off than on....all you get now is reality shows after reality shows.....if its not that its repeat films...what is wrong with giving us a film that we have never seen, make it worth while or is it just a case that they sicken you so much you turn to sky.
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 1, 2012 21:34:14 GMT 1
i dont know why we have to pay for a license as there is nothing worth watching and the tv is mostly off than on....all you get now is reality shows after reality shows.....if its not that its repeat films...what is wrong with giving us a film that we have never seen, make it worth while or is it just a case that they sicken you so much you turn to sky. whither you watch the BBC or one of the other providers you still need a license if they stopped the license fee and made the BBC advertise, it would destroy most of the other channels around, as there is only so much advertising money to go around |
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 1, 2012 21:37:04 GMT 1
half of the time i feel like saying screw you and your money but then again i think, well i cant afford the fine and i like to sleep at night...
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Post by tiddles on Feb 2, 2012 14:29:31 GMT 1
I think I am with sammy on this one. The BBC are our final defence against Murdoch and the rest. I'd be lost without their news service despite its anti-SNP stance. Their light entertainment offerings are pretty lame at present. I know it's popular but I find, 'Strictly' mind-numbing and some of their sitcoms unfunny to say the least. There is very clearly room for improvement and it has to be noted that the BBC has been taken over by a bunch of very, very odd women who would appear to spend more time in trendy, 'venues' discussing, 'ideas' than running the thing.
The Labour Party, Gideon and Cameron have tried systematically to destroy the BBC by cutting the funding despite the fact that the Corporation's charter says that political interference is unacceptable. Of course the sole reason for emasculating the BBC was to give that vile scumbag Murdoch free reign over broadcasting in the UK. It may yet happen if the evil old bastard lives another two or three years. All this was his price for supporting the Tories and the Coalition.
Now a word or two to anyone who ever finds a TV Licence official at their door. Forget about the daft car/van/truck with the aerials sticking out of it, it is technically impossible for anyone to know if you are watching TV unless they keek in your windows or you let them in. All this, "we can even tell which channel you are watching or whether you have a b&w TV or a colour set." is utter, utter shite and always has been.
If they come to your door they have only ONE piece of information and that is if you are on their records as having a licence but that database is far from reliable. They have NO right of access to your home under ANY circumstances so you should tell them to BUGGER off and if they don't, call the police as they are committing a breach of the peace. As far as the law is concerned, it is up to them to prove you DON'T have a TV licence. They can apply to the court for a warrant to enter your home but in Scotland, only a court official can do that and it comes very expensive. The ghouls they employ are no better that the low-lifes who stick bogus, 'parking tickets' on your car. They will of course threaten you with all sorts but hold fast.
How do I know this? Three years ago, one of them arrived at my parent's house and told them that they had, 'detected a TV set and that there was no record of them having a licence. My father being no fool refused them entry and closed the door despite the man trying to stick his foot in. Mum and dad called me and I drove over to find this bastard and his mate banging on the door and shouting things like, "you're going to have to answer the door or we'll fetch the police". I demanded to know what they were about and was told to, "keep out of it". Now chums, I think most of you know me well enough to gather that I am not likely to respond well to that kind of thing. I could hear my mother crying at the other side of the door.
I shouted to my mother to open the door and she did and these gits tried to rush past me. Now I was in my mid-fifties and a skinny kind of guy but when required, I can swing a mean punch. I biffed the guy and he stumbled backwards giving me time to close the door behind me. After getting my hysterical 80 year old mother to calm down, I called the police. When the cops arrived, I let them in and once again, they tried to get in along with the cops.
They were shouting, "that man hit me and I want to prefer charges" and I made it quite clear to the cops that yes, I did hit him but as only as a means to prevent him gaining access to the house. The police asked if mum and dad had a licence of not but I quickly made it clear that they had but that was neither here nor there and it was not why they were there. Fair do's to them, they went out and arrested both of the bastards and charged them with a string of offences and took them away.
I waited and waited for a summons to court and in the end spoke to the Fiscal's Office to be told that there was insufficient evidence to proceed. TYPICAL. My poor mother was traumatised for quite a while after that. Did they have a TV licence? You bet they did.
A long story but one that everyone should bear in mind, it could happen to you so be prepared.
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 2, 2012 16:14:36 GMT 1
I remember as a wee lassie the guys coming to the door and asking my dad if he had a license and he said no...................as one would, they then asked to get into the house and my dad said ..............................no and they said.....we can hear the TV AND MY DAD SAID..............AND !.........................now my dad being a real big guy stood at the front of the door and said.......is there a problem mate, and the guys said AYE , we can hear the TV and we are going for the police and off they went and the police arrived and demanded entrance. My dad gave them the look that said it all and I thought..silly men. Firstly my dad says to the police this is none of your business ...............YET boys, but stay around, he looked at the two guys and the police and said.....................I have about 8 TVs in the house and none of them are mine......................reason.........I AM A BLOODY TV MACHANIC...................now @#%$ off and if any of you knock this door again without good reason, you will bloody wear it on your head..................exit 4 redfaced guys.......how we still laugh about it.
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Post by tiddles on Feb 2, 2012 17:11:38 GMT 1
LOVE it!!!!! I hate bullies, your dad sounds like my kind of person!!!!!
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 2, 2012 17:53:32 GMT 1
He was great at letting me know my rights and was never afraid to speak his mind and was more than able to put anyone in their place that included the council,lawyers,judges and the police.
He loved Greenock but hated the fact that people were never taught their rights in school or communities, he used to say people gave away their rights through fear of looking like fools and so remained within the herd.
Aye tiddles you would have really liked him he was fair and afraid of no one, he was self taught and loved to play devils advocate.
Remember once him telling the Shaw-Stewarts to take a piss at the moon for telling him to he could,nt pitch his tent on the beach, they also got the police and my dad explained that this was a civil case and therefore had nothing to do with them . The shaws made a case of it and lost.....need to look the paperwork out but it told me, stand up and be counted.
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 2, 2012 17:57:47 GMT 1
He was great at letting me know my rights and was never afraid to speak his mind and was more than able to put anyone in their place that included the council,lawyers,judges and the police. He loved Greenock but hated the fact that people were never taught their rights in school or communities, he used to say people gave away their rights through fear of looking like fools and so remained within the herd. Aye tiddles you would have really liked him he was fair and afraid of no one, he was self taught and loved to play devils advocate. Remember once him telling the Shaw-Stewarts to take a piss at the moon for telling him to he could,nt pitch his tent on the beach, they also got the police and my dad explained that this was a civil case and therefore had nothing to do with them . The shaws made a case of it and lost.....need to look the paperwork out but it told me, stand up and be counted. The Shaw-Stewarts still think they're a cut above everyone else... |
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Post by tiddles on Feb 2, 2012 18:24:10 GMT 1
Cindy used to be quite nice but lately I gather she has gone all haughty. Her late husband was a rectal lesion.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 2, 2012 18:42:57 GMT 1
tidds i cant believe they actually bullied your mum at her age.....thay is the lowest of the lowest...
yea nowadays you have to be able to stand up for yourself or you get walked over.....jocky is good at that and no one would take him for granted...he is good and kind hearted and would do anything for anyone if it was going to help them....cross him and you know about if....i am learning as i used to be able to be walked over but not now.
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 2, 2012 18:52:51 GMT 1
ah! but is it not a wonderful thing to have free speech and I use it at every turn, but like everything else it carries responsibility. Some people do not like the truth and I have found out that there is a difference between the law and morals, but is'nt it great that the law has so many loopholes and you find them and use them .
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 2, 2012 18:59:20 GMT 1
Cindy used to be quite nice but lately I gather she has gone all haughty. Her late husband was a rectal lesion. He was always pished in the Inverkip Hotel |
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Post by tiddles on Feb 2, 2012 19:03:26 GMT 1
tidds i cant believe they actually bullied your mum at her age.....thay is the lowest of the lowest... yea nowadays you have to be able to stand up for yourself or you get walked over.....jocky is good at that and no one would take him for granted...he is good and kind hearted and would do anything for anyone if it was going to help them....cross him and you know about if....i am learning as i used to be able to be walked over but not now. My dad was a very laid back kind of guy but he got quite angry that day. He had to deal with my mum who was going spare. Actually, if the guy had been on his own, ie., without a witness, I'd have given him a doing and then denied it all  |
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Post by moonshadow on Feb 3, 2012 17:40:16 GMT 1
Is it maybe the case that as you can now get the tv on lap tops phones I pads x box and what have you more people are getting done for not having a licence
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Post by Wee Jock on Feb 3, 2012 17:46:01 GMT 1
Whit's a TV licence?
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 3, 2012 17:49:27 GMT 1
well its not what you paid for jocky when you married me haha
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Post by harpotheton on Feb 4, 2012 17:06:06 GMT 1
I need a license for the magical talking box? Good Lord !!
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 4, 2012 17:57:36 GMT 1
but just think of the nice things you could view on your magic talking box....GET ME OUT OF HERE, DANCING ON ICE, BIG BROTHER.....oh the joys....i can see you ringing the bell for your servant while watching those fine shows asking for your cognac lol
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Post by cloakedandhidden on Feb 6, 2012 1:54:02 GMT 1
I too am a TV-refuser; we dumped ours as we were no longer using it, since Herself watches all she wants via the internet (and a better damned service it is too!), likewise, my news is provided over the net. My only annoyance is that the BBC (fair enough, I'm not paying for it) only provide a BBC-One London online service, not a Scotland one, so unless it's a specific program and traceable on iPlayer, you're outa luck. Likewise, even the iPlayer stuff they take a few days to upload if it's Scottish-only, whereas the London content is up within minutes…
Like I said though, I can't really complain, I'm not paying for their shitty service anymore.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 6, 2012 13:38:39 GMT 1
if the service continues with the crap that they are putting on i can see a lot of other folks doing the same and setting a trend.....we have ours off more than on and usually its on to watch something jocky had downloaded..
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 9, 2012 14:29:16 GMT 1
well the thing is that you have to buy a ( big ) monitor to watch your downloads without paying a licence, it is not good enough that you use a TV as a monitor
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Post by moonshadow on Feb 9, 2012 16:47:35 GMT 1
And technically if you can get the TV on any device you have to get a TV licence now
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 10, 2012 0:05:14 GMT 1
morally it 's bloody blackmail
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 10, 2012 1:14:32 GMT 1
i agree there horn....
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Post by Wee Jock on Feb 10, 2012 1:54:03 GMT 1
I wonder if I were to pay them the cost of a tv licence fee for 1998 if they would accept it?
I mean it's just a repeat on my behalf and the bbc show's a helluva lot of those.
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Post by tiddles on Feb 10, 2012 15:58:55 GMT 1
The trouble is, the BBC is the best we've got and is the last bastion (so far) of proper journalism. I know BBC Scotland is very anti-SNP but that will change when the management changes. I know that the entertainment offerings are dire in the extreme but it's the old story, give the people what they want and they end up with urine like, Strictly Come Dancing. Buried away behind shite like that are wee gems like the new sitcom, 'Episodes' and those superb dramas on BBC 4. Don't all shout at me at once but if I see another David Attenborough programme I'll scream.
Many people suggest that the BBC should be funded by advertising rather than by a licence fee. To see how that would or would not work you need not look further than Channel 4. This company is entirely owned by the taxpayer but funded solely by advertising. If you want your execrable Eastenders or whatever interrupted by commercials every 4.5 minutes, then fair enough but it's not an arrangement I would care for.
The BBC is a very wasteful organisation but the waste is not in the actual programme making, it is in a vast and quite useless management structure. There are heads of this and that and deputy heads of this that and the other. All of them earn six figure sums and NONE of them are being force marched to Manchester.
We have so-called stars like that senile old bastard, Forsythe earning over a £million a year for babbling on a low rent piece of crap so-called show. He is just the tip of the iceberg and someone his age with all the money he has amassed and shunted overseas should go off somewhere and eat his Complan. It's time for younger people to take over.
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 10, 2012 16:59:34 GMT 1
The trouble is, the BBC is the best we've got and is the last bastion (so far) of proper journalism. I know BBC Scotland is very anti-SNP but that will change when the management changes. I know that the entertainment offerings are dire in the extreme but it's the old story, give the people what they want and they end up with urine like, Strictly Come Dancing. Buried away behind shite like that are wee gems like the new sitcom, 'Episodes' and those superb dramas on BBC 4. Don't all shout at me at once but if I see another David Attenborough programme I'll scream. Many people suggest that the BBC should be funded by advertising rather than by a licence fee. To see how that would or would not work you need not look further than Channel 4. This company is entirely owned by the taxpayer but funded solely by advertising. If you want your execrable Eastenders or whatever interrupted by commercials every 4.5 minutes, then fair enough but it's not an arrangement I would care for. The BBC is a very wasteful organisation but the waste is not in the actual programme making, it is in a vast and quite useless management structure. There are heads of this and that and deputy heads of this that and the other. All of them earn six figure sums and NONE of them are being force marched to Manchester. We have so-called stars like that senile old bastard, Forsythe earning over a £million a year for babbling on a low rent piece of crap so-called show. He is just the tip of the iceberg and someone his age with all the money he has amassed and shunted overseas should go off somewhere and eat his Complan. It's time for younger people to take over. Exactly right PLUS if BBC went advertising, then all the other commercial channels would suffer as there wouldn't be enough budgets to go round |
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