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Post by tiddles on Feb 24, 2012 16:43:50 GMT 1
www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/freecontent/articles/2012/02/24/424359-emotional-trip-to-auschwitz/I wholeheartedly approve of this, I have met many young people who really have never heard of Auschwitz or the Holocaust. We HAVE to confront the past or we will be condemned to repeat it. Instead of faffing about teaching kids computer studies that they already know all about, give them a firm grounding in the history of the last century so that they can see how we got where we are today. Oh and while they're at it, why don't they make sure their pupils can read, write and speak? Every time someone brings a teenager to me I have to ask for a translation. If our personal communications are not unified, the whole fabric of society will fracture.
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 24, 2012 18:32:20 GMT 1
www.greenocktelegraph.co.uk/news/freecontent/articles/2012/02/24/424359-emotional-trip-to-auschwitz/I wholeheartedly approve of this, I have met many young people who really have never heard of Auschwitz or the Holocaust. We HAVE to confront the past or we will be condemned to repeat it. Instead of faffing about teaching kids computer studies that they already know all about, give them a firm grounding in the history of the last century so that they can see how we got where we are today. Oh and while they're at it, why don't they make sure their pupils can read, write and speak? Every time someone brings a teenager to me I have to ask for a translation. If our personal communications are not unified, the whole fabric of society will fracture. Jings Tidds - you're really stretching things now, that's a tall order - not only that, it may mean parents having to take an interest too
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 24, 2012 19:30:07 GMT 1
i would love to travel to see were history happened.... jock and i went to Iceland years ago and we were at christianson fort were they used to murder the partisans, this place was high up which meant when they shot them the noise would ring out so everyone heard it...... there is nothing better than learning about the past as by learning that allows us to move forward in a better way. tidds i have heard while passing young guys and girls in the town the way they speak...i call it lazy speech....they are so slow and they sound as if they are either on something or drunk...its horrible........you must hear it quite often in your work
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 24, 2012 19:35:31 GMT 1
Haven't been to Auschwitz but I have been to Dachau, which is in a suburb of Munich
I have never ever experienced anything so sobering as that.........
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 24, 2012 19:40:20 GMT 1
i bet.....i think it would be an experience you would never forget. sam did you get any pictures...if so put them up as we would love to see them
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 24, 2012 19:57:14 GMT 1
i bet.....i think it would be an experience you would never forget. sam did you get any pictures...if so put them up as we would love to see them There may be some pictures, not sure - it was in 1988 - they'll be up the loft somewhere A group of us from my BB company travelled around Europe on the train for 2/3 weeks using an InterRail ticket - got to Venice, Athens, Corfu, Rome, Paris, Milan, Munich, Brussels blah blah blah Highly recommended if yer under 26
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 24, 2012 20:36:29 GMT 1
Culloden makes me feel sad and even sadder is the fact that they want us to pay to visit out ancesters graves.
Went to Port Arthur in Tazmania, now that place was hell on earth, the most inhuman place I have ever been too, you can almost feel yourself dragging your heels. I feel cold even thinking about it.
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Post by tiddles on Feb 24, 2012 21:42:06 GMT 1
Do they actually charge you to walk around Culloden now?
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 24, 2012 21:57:45 GMT 1
surely not
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Post by tiddles on Feb 24, 2012 23:02:05 GMT 1
Oh nothing would surprise me now. In the past you could wander about to your heart's content but then, now we probably have, Chief Executives and Wander Agents
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 24, 2012 23:07:45 GMT 1
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 24, 2012 23:08:49 GMT 1
flaming hell................. i have to admit i loved oban and glencoe especially...it always rained when i went to glencoe but its so atmospheric
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 24, 2012 23:10:34 GMT 1
I'm surprised it's not called the Culloden "Experience" wae some interactive element in it. You know the sort of thing, get yerself maimed by a huge claymore for a fiver a go
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 24, 2012 23:29:09 GMT 1
lol
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Post by tiddles on Feb 25, 2012 13:48:25 GMT 1
Well that has just really made me angry. I hate that outfit the, NTS. They are greedy bastards who always have the begging bowl out even though they pay their, 'executives' a fortune. In the past, all you had to do was park your car and take a stroll at your leisure around the moor. I bet it's all, 'visitor centre' with overpriced, Chinese made tat.
Bastards.
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 25, 2012 16:10:27 GMT 1
it is sad and there was no way I would pay the money they ask, all they are doing is taking tourists for a ride.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 25, 2012 18:43:13 GMT 1
imagine asking folks to pay to visit Culloden...they always want to make money no matter how
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Post by tiddles on Feb 26, 2012 19:54:20 GMT 1
If only we'd known, we could have charged the English an entry fee and maybe we would have won!!!!
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 26, 2012 19:57:48 GMT 1
If only we'd known, we could have charged the English an entry fee and maybe we would have won!!!! Instead of just charging them? Kin you see whut ah done there?
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Post by tiddles on Feb 26, 2012 19:58:52 GMT 1
Duh!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 26, 2012 20:09:45 GMT 1
we know someone who is english and really grates on me as he always says he is proud to be english....you dont mind that but its all the time........he wasnt best pleased when i asked him if he had his application form for his passport
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Post by tiddles on Feb 26, 2012 20:14:11 GMT 1
I have a cousin who was born and bred in Surrey who sees Scotland as a wayward colony. Given half a chance, she sail a frigate up the Forth to fire on the Government Offices!
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 26, 2012 20:22:55 GMT 1
I have a cousin who was born and bred in Surrey who sees Scotland as a wayward colony. Given half a chance, she sail a frigate up the Forth to fire on the Government Offices! If you read the torygraph or the daily heil, that attitude is quite common amongst their comments sections on Scottish stories Apparently anyone who supports independence should be sent to the tower of London to await trial for treason
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 26, 2012 20:42:26 GMT 1
oh well goodbye....i am off to the tower........hope they have a plug so i can juice up my computer
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