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Post by tiddles on Feb 16, 2013 16:33:14 GMT 1
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 16, 2013 18:03:32 GMT 1
I've been to the ballet before, at the Theatre Royal, surprisingly I was quite impressed - but I don't think I could be a regular attender at such
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Post by tiddles on Feb 16, 2013 18:07:49 GMT 1
Oh I got trailed to it by the school and hated every second of it. But then, I'm a simple man with simple tastes like Grouse and Star Trek
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 16, 2013 18:11:19 GMT 1
Oh I got trailed to it by the school and hated every second of it. But then, I'm a simple man with simple tastes like Grouse and Star Trek my mate's wife took me, as himself thought fuk that, there's a programme aboot watching paint dry on the discovery channel
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Post by tiddles on Feb 16, 2013 18:16:51 GMT 1
The one I saw was some obscure Russian thing about penguins (well that's how it appeared to me). I was so tempted to throw ball-bearings onto the stage I had a skipper who liked ballet but then he was the son of a baronet and that sort of thing is bred into you.
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 16, 2013 18:22:18 GMT 1
The one I saw was some obscure Russian thing about penguins (well that's how it appeared to me). I was so tempted to throw ball-bearings onto the stage I had a skipper who liked ballet but then he was the son of a baronet and that sort of thing is bred into you. we went to see cinderella - it was a modern ballet - so plenty of burdz scantily clad I remember taking the BB junior section to arts guild panto (we went every year) we always sat in the front two/three rows on one side One year at the interval we got complaints about the boys firing peashooters at the dancers As it was lights oot at the time no one noticed - but on closer inspection (searched by the scruff of the neck) a couple of them had peashooter the length of 12 inch ruler up their sleeves It was jist as well me n mate were friendly wae prince charming and her pals, so promising them drink the next night we met them soon cleared that up
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 16, 2013 18:55:45 GMT 1
I have been fully informed by my grandaughter NOT to go to the cafe as it would make your eyes water, Oh! why said I, the sandwiches cost £7 and it took over 1/2 a hour to get them and the water was a fortune she said. I asked her what she was going to do about it, Oh! she said, I will make up my own sandwiches and juice or water..........................I think a big bag would be in order.
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Post by tiddles on Feb 16, 2013 22:17:28 GMT 1
Not surprised Horn...it looks like that kind of place. The wee Arts Guild was a friendly, welcoming sort of place, this place is Pseuds Corner and crammed to the fire doors with arseholes.
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 16, 2013 22:20:57 GMT 1
my god....£7 for a sandwich, did she have posh water or common tap...... polly and i just had a look and left........bugger going there for a drink
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Post by tiddles on Feb 16, 2013 22:28:38 GMT 1
As soon as the icing falls aff the cake and they find no one turning up for their overpriced shite, there will be weeping and wailing and then the begging bowl will be out again. I predict a crisis in 2014!
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 16, 2013 22:58:29 GMT 1
they got a large grant just recently....it was in either the tele or inverclyde now....the begging bowl is out well and truly
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Post by tiddles on Feb 17, 2013 13:08:07 GMT 1
It is just too big a project for a crumbling, crime ridden slum like Inverclyde. For it to be successful, it would have to attract people from all over Scotland but as that's very unlikely, it'll be a white, or rather a, green elephant. In the meantime, it'll be a great place for the posers to flutter about pretending to be the RSC.
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Post by myfindhorn on Feb 17, 2013 18:46:13 GMT 1
All I can say is that I shall more than likely go to Glasgow for a show as they have plenty of choice. I also have to admit that the SECC is way over the top for their prices too so! they also are given a miss, there is no way that places like Greenock can pay these prices and, the well off are welcome to it, as long as they don't hold out the begging bowl the way they did when the IBM left and they had to open the doors to the minions
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 17, 2013 21:21:51 GMT 1
i wont go to those places as i look at my money and think what can i buy with it....i hope it fails or it starts leaking..
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 17, 2013 22:46:07 GMT 1
Actually I hope it succeeds and succeeds well FFS inverclyde needs something other than the lowest common denominator of pandering to the fuckwits, the ignorant, the underclass and all those others courted by the likes of the LIEBOOR PARTY
Maybe it is ugly, who cares I most certainly don't, inverclyde is a shithole, this sure as hell s an improvement on that, even if it had pink polka dots too Sometimes the people locally wouldn't know a good thing if it jumped up and booted them on the bawz on an hourly basis
It makes a change frae fukkin fitba parks, sports centres, and touchy-freely shite about teaching fukwitted arseholes how to put a nappy on a wean and not tae stub yer fag oot on sed wean either FFS these folk shouldnae huv weans in the first place, take them aff them.
A play a pie and a pint is good, it's about a tenner, including sed pint n pie at Oran mor, don't see it being merr expensive here Oran mor is wan of those places in glasgows west end that's very good, but not aimed at the lowest common denominator or lemon sookers - inverclyde folk may be shocked that there is nothing really to moan about at it, but am sure they could have a bash
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 17, 2013 23:16:07 GMT 1
sam its terrible looking....green windows or blinds and no architecture, i think the guy that designed it must have been looking at his breakfast boxes.......take a good look at custom house....beautiful building inside and out.....to have the bacon centre right next to it is a shame..
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Post by tiddles on Feb 18, 2013 14:40:30 GMT 1
I agree with you about Oran Mor Sammy but we are dealing with a very different kind of set up at the Bacon Centre. Whilst there's no denying, if the pictures are telling us the truth, that it's a superb facility INSIDE, it is going to be run by a bunch of arseholes who will see themselves as being in charge of the Royal Court or the National Theatre. Any criticism will be seen as high treason.
I gather from friends who have been there, the price of even simple fayre is pegged at City Centre + prices. Clearly the days of the wee wifies handing out a cup of tea and a cake for £1.50 are long gone.
Okay, it's a big and complex building and there has to be some secondary revenue coming in but let's not lose the fact that the whole enterprise is being funded by the publicly proffered begging bowl and that bowl will be shoved in your face at regular intervals.
The term, 'Horses for Courses' has also to be taken into consideration but of course there's nothing to stop the odd esoteric performance taking place to please the pretentious set. However, I was struck by the speed with which a populist offering like that Diva thing was replaced by a ballet troupe performing some hitherto unknown work. I doubt if there'll be a queue for that one.
I agree with what you say, "FFS inverclyde needs something other than the lowest common denominator of pandering to the fuckwits, the ignorant, the underclass and all those others courted by the likes of the LIEBOOR PARTY". However, the facility has to be for the people, by the people and not for the chattering classes of Newark Street and the Cricket Club.
Well hopefully the preening and posing will die down and we'll see a return to the ethos of the old Arts Guild but I doubt that will happen, we have all given that mob a magnificent toy to play with and I can just see fireworks in the autumn when the panto is being prepared. The boss wummin will explain that the cost of running the building makes it necessary to increase usage fees and so the panto folks will have to set much higher prices and those prices will be beyond what mummies and daddies will be prepared to pay. Let's face it, REAL panto tickets to see REAL professionals will make people consider a trip to Glasgow rather than watch the, 'How now brown cow' antics so often provided. And, there is no IBM to subsidise the enterprise now. I simply cannot see organisations the likes of Oracle Theatre of Youth or the George Square Players being nurtured there, they'd NEVER be able to afford it.
I grudgingly wish the concept luck but I question the administration and overall ethos of the place. I was at school with many of them and even then they had delusions of grandeur and a pomposity that was palpable.
There is also no getting away from the serious design flaws of the building itself. They needn't have walked further than 50 yds to see just how a flat roofed building fares in this climate. The cop shop is and always has been riven with dampness. However, at least that building is clad in stone and dressed concrete and not aluminium panels, panels which during the first major storm will take off to Munchkin land. As Inspector Clouseau would say, "Your architect should have his head examined"!
Finally, the choice of that prancing p***k, Prince Arseword, Earl of Westclox as patron is a bad move. Nobody likes the bastard and surely within the precincts of our own land there are people who could have performed the role much better. Mind you, Mr McKelvie and his band of Thespians do so love to bow and scrape and say, "Yes your Royal Hairnet".
Gonny no' hit me Sammy, ah'm auld and fail!
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Post by tiddles on Feb 18, 2013 19:51:33 GMT 1
beaconyouththeatre.blogspot.co.uk/Here's where some of the money is spent: A, 'play' about sugar cubes melting? All run by two twats who couldn't get a job as an extra on River City..
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 18, 2013 20:03:06 GMT 1
tidds your royal hairnet made me nearly spill my tea lol
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Post by tiddles on Feb 18, 2013 20:14:42 GMT 1
Well you be careful you don't drown wee Santa Paws!!!
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 18, 2013 20:24:47 GMT 1
beaconyouththeatre.blogspot.co.uk/Here's where some of the money is spent: A, 'play' about sugar cubes melting? All run by two twats who couldn't get a job as an extra on River City.. I'm sure that the external aesthetics of the place would never be everyone's cup of tea, beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that pish.... If people are concerned locally about its direction, then they should get involved in the management of it too, at least then, they may get an understanding of the financials involved in running such a place. The people "in charge" are only there because inverclyde's general apathy about anything not fitba related allows them to be. It can almost be described as some sort of inverted snobbery. As for that erse prince edward, no doubt his thespian background and the laco of a better royal caused that to happen The "shows" being presented will no doubt be a mix of populist and more esoteric or high brow stuff, but that's the point of it, to try and get folk to come and see or do things that are outside of their usual likes and norms. There's construvtive criticism too, the local lemon-sookers need to learn that, this place could have been the best arts centre the world has ever seen and the local lemon-sooking , moaning gits would still be sounding off Even if it cost two jelly jars to get in, it would still be to expensive. Anything to complain about and they are in there moaning. Has anyone challenged the dance school for their pricing, or is it just a case at taking a swipe at the more obvious but wrong target, it must be the big bad beacon centre's fault and not the dance school ( which is actually a business that sets its prices for the shows) The bistro thing is a business too, they are not Leo's snack bar, or tesco's cafeteria, they are not competing with those types of establishment and shouldn't be compared. They have to at least break-even, I wouldn't want to go there and get the same shite Leo's or tesco's serve up just so it can be cheap. Give the place a chance, you never know, you might actually discover something
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Post by harpotheton on Feb 18, 2013 20:29:21 GMT 1
Fascinating stuff..where is this 'Leos' establishment you speak of ? I wonder if their menu is online ? I shall get one of my servants to have a look....Ah yes - fine dining is one of my favourite pastimes. Do they serve Bollinger ?
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Post by linda wallace on Feb 18, 2013 20:31:18 GMT 1
we know someone who is deeply involved in the bacon centre and to be really honest i wouldnt want to be involved in that place if they are all like him.....he doesnt give a shit about anyone that doesnt have money....
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Post by tiddles on Feb 18, 2013 20:33:35 GMT 1
They do a nice Roederer Crystal Harpo but they serve it in two bob tumblers.
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Post by harpotheton on Feb 18, 2013 20:36:33 GMT 1
I say - thats some good shit that stuff.....oops !!! Harpotheton used the 'S' word...I do humbly apologise....
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Post by tiddles on Feb 18, 2013 20:46:54 GMT 1
Indeed it is and we have two bottles in reserve for our son's wedding in the summer. As to saying naughty words, worry not for I have it on good authority that the Queens say, "shit" quite often and most of her family are shit so there ya go!
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 18, 2013 20:50:58 GMT 1
Sorry, we're not big champagne drinkers, but I must admit though, that whist crossing Atlantic on Cunard's flagship we did sample, it was rather nice too, some of curve clicquot's rather nice vintage bubbly, they had a whole bar establishment selling only that.
So much more tasteful that bolinger
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Post by tiddles on Feb 18, 2013 20:57:56 GMT 1
I have to admit that I love champagne but only if it's a good one. I first tasted Crystal at a reception in Plymouth and I was hooked but at £80 a bottle, it's not on our shopping menu often. Veuve Cliquot is superb even down to the, 'base model'. When I see people in supermarkets picking bottle of, 'champagne' for £14 a bottle I feel like telling them to buy a bottle of Cava at £6. It'll taste better. I have just suggested that we open the Crystal to June and she is not best pleased. Tomorrow it's the Southern General for more probing so best to have a clear head if I need to speak plainly!
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Post by samfregreenock on Feb 18, 2013 21:04:40 GMT 1
I have to admit that I love champagne but only if it's a good one. I first tasted Crystal at a reception in Plymouth and I was hooked but at £80 a bottle, it's not on our shopping menu often. Veuve Cliquot is superb even down to the, 'base model'. When I see people in supermarkets picking bottle of, 'champagne' for £14 a bottle I feel like telling them to buy a bottle of Cava at £6. It'll taste better. I have just suggested that we open the Crystal to June and she is not best pleased. Tomorrow it's the Southern General for more probing so best to have a clear head if I need to speak plainly! Keep the crystal for a speshul occasion Mrs Sam is not a champers aficionado, herself prefers still wine. But I'm game for anything really, although I must say I cannae go blended whisky. Don't mind the odd ( very odd) malt but cannae stick islay ones, far to peaty I once attended a civic reception in the toon hall and managed to "taste" a fair selection of malts Crystal champagne is a favourite of rap singers like snoop duggy dug, notorious big, Biggy small etc, before the drive-by shootings etc
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Post by tiddles on Feb 18, 2013 21:08:27 GMT 1
eeek...does the Queen know this? She always serves it. Mind you, you could fill a champagne bottle with dug pish and thae daft bastards would drink it
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